Over
the last few years I have gotten to know some wonderful, godly evangelical
Christians who don’t believe that we go to Heaven right after we die, at least
not in the sense that most Christians believe this. They also don’t believe
that people have souls that can live consciously separate from our bodies after
death. What do these Christians believe? They believe in something called soul
sleep which is also sometimes called physicalism. They believe that when a
Christian dies, we will be unconscious until Jesus returns and we are raised to
life in new, immortal, resurrection bodies. To us it will feel like no time has
passed. We will close our eyes in death and it will feel like an instant later
we are opening our eyes in our incorruptible, glorious new bodies as we meet
our Lord and Savior face to face.
I
don’t think that is a terrible view. I would not hesitate to support an
otherwise qualified evangelical Christian for a position of teaching and
leadership in the church if they believed in soul sleep. They do make arguments
for their view based on their understanding of the Bible. I’m not talking about
progressive Christians or theological liberals; I’m talking about theologically
conservative Christians who interpret the Bible differently than I do when it
comes to the intermediate state. While I don’t think the soul sleep view is
terrible, I do think it is wrong.
In
this post I will share why I still believe that we have souls that will leave
our bodies at death and will live consciously with Christ in heaven until we
are resurrected. I will do this by sharing ten biblical reasons for this
belief.
Reason
#1: There are spirits that can enter and leave human bodies
"When an unclean spirit comes out of a person,
it roams through
waterless places looking for rest but doesn't find any.”
- Jesus (CSB17 Matthew 12:43)
Some
indirect support for my view comes from the fact that the Bible has stories
about spirits (also called demons) that sometimes can enter a person’s body,
influence their thoughts, speech, and body, and come out of their body. These
spirits are personal beings. On a more encouraging note, the Holy Spirit of God
can also come into us, fill us, and guide us. These spirits are invisible to
us. The Bible also speaks of people having spirits:
ESV
1 Corinthians 2:11 For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that
person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except
the Spirit of God.
CSB17
1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in another tongue, my spirit prays, but my
understanding is unfruitful.
CSB17
James 2:26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith
without works is dead.
Human
spirits are different from either evil spirits or the Holy Spirit in some ways.
Our spirits can’t leave and enter our body at will. However, the fact that we
have a spirit makes it seem at least plausible that our spirit might be able to
leave our body when we die and go to Heaven and then enter our new resurrection
body later. This isn’t proof that my view is correct, but it lends credibility
to the traditional view that the spirits of Christians go to Heaven when we die.
Reason
#2: Jesus told the story of the rich man and Lazarus
In
Luke 16 Jesus tells the story of the rich man and Lazarus. After they die, they
each go to a different location. This occurs immediately after their death
before the return of Christ and therefore is describing the intermediate state.
I don’t know if the story Jesus told is an historical account of what happened
to two actual people or if it is a parable. The evidence is mixed. Whether it
is an historical account or a parable it seems to have at least some symbolic
elements in it, and it is hard to say with certainty which parts are literal
and which parts are symbolic. But this one thing is clear: Jesus told a story
which agreed with a widespread view at the time (not the only view, but a
common one), that people have souls which leave their bodies at death and go
somewhere where they are either comforted or punished. A teacher with great
authority and with knowledge of what comes after death telling such a story was
bound to reinforce the common belief that our souls leave our bodies and go
somewhere else to live when we die. Jesus never teaches anything that
explicitly contradicts this common view. At the very least, Jesus must have
considered this common view not to be harmful or He would not have reinforced
it. To me, the most reasonable explanation for the story of the rich man and
Lazarus is that the common view that our souls leave our bodies at death is
correct.
One
additional note: this was a story about the intermediate state. It does not tell us what will happen at and after
the final judgment. Jesus discusses the final fate of people quite explicitly
in a number of other places and His teaching consistently supports the doctrine
of conditional immortality
(which is a doctrine about the final fate of people, not a doctrine about the
intermediate state).
Reason
#3: Jesus teaches that there is a part of us, our souls, that other people
cannot kill
“Don't fear those who kill the body but are not able to
kill the soul; rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in
hell.”
- Jesus (Matt. 10:28 CSB17)
When
I read and reread this verse it is difficult for me to come to any conclusion
other than that I have both a body and a soul. People can kill my body. But
they cannot kill my soul. Doesn’t this imply (pretty strongly) that my soul
will continue to live if someone kills my body?
This
passage does not teach that all souls are immortal. It explicitly warns that
God can destroy both body and soul in hell. But this passage does seem to teach
the survival of the soul after death here on earth (survival after death is not
the same thing as living forever after death, as the Bible teaches that
Christians, and only Christians, will have eternal life).
Those
who believe in soul sleep say that Jesus meant something like “people can kill
your body, but that does not mean you are permanently destroyed.” But that is
not what Jesus said. He easily could have said that people can kill you, but
God can restore you. But Jesus instead spoke about us having a soul that can’t
be killed by people (but can be killed by God).
Reason
#4: Jesus told the thief on the cross he would be with Him that day in Paradise
And he said to him, "Truly I tell you, today you
will be with me in paradise."
(Lk. 23:43 CSB17)
The
simplest interpretation of Jesus’ words on the cross to the thief who put His
faith in Christ is that later that day, after they have both died, they will be
together in heaven. There’s no reason in the words themselves or in the
immediate context, not to interpret the passage this way. If this
interpretation is correct, it would settle the issue in favor of the
traditional view that the souls of Christians go to be with the Lord when we
die.
Because
the original Greek text had neither commas nor quotation marks, it is
grammatically possible to translate the sentence this way:
And
he said to him, “Truly I tell you today: you will be with me in paradise.”
In
this alternative translation “today” refers to when Jesus is telling the thief
something, not to when they will be in paradise together.
While
the alternative translation is possible, it is unlikely. The opening statement,
“Truly I tell you” is a standard phrase used by Jesus to introduce an important
statement that immediately follows. The pattern is found in all four gospels. I
found 77 examples (this is based on searching for the phrase “truly I tell you”
in the CSB and then looking at both the English and Greek). Adding “today” to
the introductory statement “Truly I tell you,” does not fit the consistent
pattern. I honestly doubt anyone would seriously consider the alternate
translation if they were not trying to avoid the implications of the more
likely translation.
If
Jesus was communicating to the thief that it would feel like just an instant
before he was with Jesus in paradise (which could be true from the soul sleep
point of view), He easily could have said something like “soon you will be with
me” instead of saying “today you will be with me.” “Today” is specific.
Finally, if Jesus had in mind their reunion at the resurrection, why didn’t He
just say so? Jesus often spoke of the resurrection.
Reason
#5: Stephen saw heaven opened and asked for the Lord to receive his spirit
Stephen
was the first Christian martyr who gave His life for Christ. Right before he
died, God allowed Stephen to see into heaven. As they began to stone him,
Stephen knew he was about to die and cried out, “Lord Jesus, receive my
spirit!”
I
have no doubt that Stephen will be resurrected when Jesus returns. But I don’t
think that’s what Stephen was thinking about as he was stoned. He could see (or
had just seen) heaven open and he knew his body would soon be dead. As Jesus
had explained in Matthew 10:28, people can kill our body. But Stephen wants to
be with God. So, he asks God to receive his spirit. Those words are an awkward
fit if Stephen had his future resurrection in mind, because the resurrection
will involve us gaining new, very physical, bodies. Stephen’s words, especially
in this setting, seem to fit much better with the assumption that Stephen
believed his spirit could live on after his body was crushed and desired God to
take his spirit up into heaven. Read and decide for yourself:
CSB17
Acts 7:55 Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven. He saw the glory
of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
56 He said, "Look, I see the heavens
opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!"
57 They yelled at the top of their voices,
covered their ears, and together rushed against him.
58 They dragged him out of the city and began
to stone him. And the witnesses laid their garments at the feet of a young man
named Saul.
59 While they were stoning Stephen, he called
out: "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!"
60 He knelt down and cried out with a loud
voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" And after saying
this, he died.
Reason
#6: Paul said that to be absent from the body is to be at home with the Lord
It
is not easy to interpret all of the details in the first 8 verses of the 5th
chapter of 2 Corinthians. Here they are:
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2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly tent we live in is destroyed,
we have a building from God, an eternal dwelling in the heavens, not made with hands.
2 Indeed, we groan in this tent, desiring to
put on our heavenly dwelling,
3 since, when we have taken it off, we will
not be found naked.
4 Indeed, we groan while we are in this tent,
burdened as we are, because we do not want to be unclothed but clothed, so that
mortality may be swallowed up by life.
5 Now the one who prepared us for this very
purpose is God, who gave us the Spirit as a down payment.
6 So we are always confident and know that
while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord.
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.
8 In fact, we are confident, and we would
prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
I
feel that this passage does give some support to the view that our souls will
go to Heaven when we die, although parts of the passage also may be looking
forward to the resurrection. Here are a few observations:
1.
The “earthly tent” (vs. 1) seems to be referring to our current bodies. The
very image of a tent suggests that there is a part of us living inside the
tent. It fits well with the common view that our soul/spirit is in our body
during our life on earth.
2.
The “building from God,” (vs. 1) however is also called “an eternal dwelling in
the heavens.” Is this referring to our new resurrection bodies we will receive
at the resurrection? If so, then why is it said that this dwelling is “in the
heavens”? Our resurrection bodies are described as rising up out of the earth
when Jesus returns. Could the “building from God” refer to some type of body we
will have while in the intermediate state? It could, but then I would have
thought it would be temporary and not “eternal.” After researching various
commentaries and studying this myself, I’m undecided on specifically what the
“building from God” refers to. Even if it refers to our future resurrection
bodies, this does not negate the other evidence for our souls going to Heaven.
Paul easily could be looking towards our whole future after death and mixing
references to the intermediate state and the resurrected state together. Verses
2-4 contain the same tension.
3.
Verses 6 and 8 contain the language that seems to most strongly support the
idea of our souls being with God after we die. Paul writes, “while we are at
home in the body we are away from the Lord.” This obviously refers to our
current life now. The very phrase “at home in the body” implies that there is a
“me” that is in my body. This language fits with the view of souls that are
normally in bodies much better than it fits with physicalism. But vs. 8 is the
real clincher. Paul writes, “we would prefer to be away from the body and at
home with the Lord.” It doesn’t make sense for Paul to be speaking here of our
resurrection bodies because no one will want to be away from those! And it
doesn’t make sense to prefer being “at home with the Lord” if we will be
unconscious. Why would we prefer that? The language “away from the body” makes
the most sense if Paul believed we have souls that leave our bodies at death.
“Away from the body” would be a very strange way of referring to being in new,
incorruptible resurrection bodies. It appears that Paul believed what most
Christians today believe, namely that when we die our spirit leaves our body
and we enjoy peaceful, joyful fellowship with Jesus and other saints while
waiting for the resurrection. This conclusion is reinforced by what Paul writes
seven chapters later.
Reason
#7: Paul thought that it was possible to be out of his body
A
physicalist would not think that they might have been out of their bodies at
some point. Yet, Paul writes:
CSB17
2 Corinthians 12:1 Boasting is necessary. It is not profitable, but I will move
on to visions and revelations of the Lord.
2 I know a man in Christ who was caught up to
the third heaven fourteen years ago. Whether he was in the body or out of the
body, I don't know; God knows.
3 I know that this man-- whether in the body
or out of the body I don't know; God knows--
4 was caught up into paradise and heard
inexpressible words, which a human being is not allowed to speak.
There
is no question that Paul had visions and revelations. The question is whether
one of these visions occurred while Paul was out of his body (I’m assuming, as
most commentators believe, that Paul is referring to himself). Paul doesn’t
know. A dualist who believes we have both bodies and souls and believes that it
is possible for our bodies and souls to part, could have an experience, a
vision, where afterwards he wasn’t sure if his body had been lifted up into
paradise or if his soul had been lifted out of his body and up into paradise.
But for a physicalist, the very notion of being “out of the body” would be
impossible. Also, in this case we know for sure that being “out of the body”
did not mean being out of our current body and in a resurrection body because
the visions occur before the resurrection. This makes it likely that Paul has
the same thing in mind when he speaks of being out of, or away from, the body
elsewhere. It appears that Paul was not
a physicalist.
Reason
#8: Paul longs to leave his body and be with Christ
Perhaps
the clearest statement of the “when we die our souls go to heaven” view is
found in the first chapter of Philippians:
CSB17
Philippians 1:21 For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
22 Now if I live on in the flesh, this means
fruitful work for me; and I don't know which one I should choose.
23 I am torn between the two. I long to depart
and be with Christ-- which is far better--
24 but to remain in the flesh is more
necessary for your sake.
When
Paul speaks of “the flesh,” sometimes he is referring to our sinful desires and
tendencies (see Galatians 5:17). But Paul cannot mean that here because living
on in sinful desires would not result in fruitful work! Here, by the flesh,
Paul seems to simply mean his current body. The very language of “live on in
the flesh” and “remain in the flesh” suggests the possibility that a part of us
could live outside of our body. This possibility is made explicit when staying
in his body is contrasted with departing and being with Christ. The context is
clear that this departing will occur if Paul dies. I don’t see a better way to
interpret the language of remaining in the body versus departing and being with
Christ than to think that Paul held the common view that the souls of the
righteous will depart our bodies at death and go to heaven (that is where Jesus
lives now) while awaiting resurrection (which he discusses later in this
letter).
Notice
also that Paul says that “to die is gain” and feels that our situation after
death will be “far better.” This makes sense if we will consciously be with
Christ in heaven after death.
Reason
#9: The author of Hebrews describes human spirits in heaven
CSB17
Hebrews 12:22 Instead, you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living
God (the heavenly Jerusalem), to myriads of angels, a festive gathering,
23 to the assembly of the firstborn whose
names have been written in heaven, to a Judge, who is God of all, to the
spirits of righteous people made perfect,
24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new
covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which says better things than the blood
of Abel.
While
this passage could be referring to the heavenly Jerusalem after it has come
down to the new earth (Revelation 21:2), the fact that the author of Hebrews
refers to “the spirits of righteous people” as opposed to simply “righteous
people” makes me think it is more likely that he is referring to the heavenly
Jerusalem while it is still up in heaven. If so, this is a beautiful picture of
the intermediate state, where we will be joyfully celebrating the grace and
goodness of our Lord together with the angels while we wait for something even
better – the resurrection and the new earth.
Reason
#10: Peter compares his body to a tent that he will soon leave
CSB17
2 Peter 1:13 I think it is right, as long as I am in this bodily tent, to wake
you up with a reminder,
14
since I know that I will soon lay aside my tent, as our Lord Jesus Christ has
indeed made clear to me.
15
And I will also make every effort so that you are able to recall these things
at any time after my departure.
When
Peter compares his tent to a body that he can lay aside and speaks of his
departure it sounds to me like he expects a part of him to depart his body at
his death.
Conclusion
and Pastoral Comments
I
don’t think the ten reasons above amount to an airtight, 100% proof that we
have spirits that will go to be with Jesus in heaven and will be consciously
with him after we die while we await the resurrection. However, I think the ten
reasons do add up to a strong case for this view.
Even
though I think we will go to heaven when we die, I also feel that most
Christians today focus a lot on this fact (the intermediate state) and focus
far less on the promise of the resurrection. This is strange because the
biblical authors do just the opposite. They speak much more often of the hope
of the resurrection. So, I feel we are a bit out of balance. Still, the thought
of ourselves and Christian loved ones being in heaven with Jesus and with each
other immediately after death is comforting and has a good biblical basis. We
don’t have to choose between our souls going to heaven immediately at our death
and the future hope of a glorious resurrection. I believe both are true.
Hebrews 13:16 And do not forget to do good and to share with others . . .
Excellent--straightforward, irenic, and powerful as a cumulative case.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mark, I always enjoy your writings.
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for your well thought-out study on this intriguing subject which we will only see "darkly through a glass". Having been introduced to the soul-sleep idea only over the past couple years I have been thinking about it in relation to passages like 2Cor.5 which you discuss. As you point out, that chapter mixes the intermediate state with the resurrection, and most Christians seem to freely misapply resurrection promises to the intermediate state. I will attach a link to a study I did on 2Cor.5 if you are interested: https://1drv.ms/w/s!AhOsEg5Y1-yEgYZPH-irPc3GRZEqnw?e=cvksQU
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